House passes massive health care reform bill
2009 November 9
This isn’t news really; I don’t think anyone expected the House to have any trouble passing H.R. 3962. The insurance industry, of course, is up in arms – a decent indication, at this point, that we’ve got real reform on our hands.
The question remains as to how a reform bill similar to the one passed by the House will fare in the Senate. There are many hurtles to overcome, to be sure, but many in the Senate are becoming increasingly confident that real reform can pass there as well. If it’s pulled off, it will be the largest change to the US health care system since the creation of the astonishingly-successful Medicare program, and – if all goes well – it’ll expand your pocketbook by lowering health care costs.
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There is a lot more resistance in the Senate, isn’t there?
The defection of Liebs really hurts the Dems, actually. Let me tell you McConnell’s strategy: Frankly, he is going to offer 180000 amendments over the course of the next several months. This will accomplish two things:
1) This will delay the final vote on the bill longer than Obama would like it. This is also much longer than Dems up for election would like it, as well. As the vote gets nearer to election day, more Senators are going to get nervous. This vote will become more and more difficult to pass.
2) This will allow the public to see open discussion of each provision of the bill that is addressed by each amendment. One of the great truths of this bill is that it has been hidden largely from the public. Its why the house voted on Saturday night and its why the Democrats quite literally cannot point to anything positive in the bill.
That bears repeating, in my mind: Democrats cannot point to anything in this bill that is a great part of the bill. Not one Senator or Representative or the President has said, “Look here, this is a wonderful part right here…” No, only empty promises of “reduced costs”, “expanded care”, etc. Oh, and don’t forget the class warfare and attacks on “Insurance companies” and “Big Pharma”, as well. Another common practice is to simply accuse any opponent of wanting people to die if they get sick, as if anyone in the nation feels that way. This slash and burn argument style is endemic of the fact that there is literally NOTHING to stand behind in this bill. It is a political war, pure and simple.
Your assertion that a program with a 36 trillion dollar unfunded liability is astonishingly successful shows just how wrong and sinister your motives are. Its three fucking times bigger than our GDP in the hole. Its almost as breathtaking as your implicit sentiment that somehow paying the federal government instead of private industry will cost any less. You should be thankful that your breathing is hard-wired into your body, as a mind as flawed as yours would screw that up within seconds of being born.
I apologize for the venom in my statements, but I cannot believe that anyone wants the government to care for our needs. What happened to your pride? Where is your humanity? You are flushing freedoms we’ve fought for over centuries. I get why the liberals in power want it: they are in charge. But why you? Don’t you see?
In this nation, the price of freedom is that you must care for your own needs. You want to change it, and I’m going to do whatever I can to stop you. You’re not getting away with this.
Hey buddy our teams both suck, and so does the nfl network
Yup, but yours clearly sucks far more.
“Your assertion that a program with a 36 trillion dollar unfunded liability is astonishingly successful shows just how wrong and sinister your motives are.”
I assert such things based on the satisfaction of the populace, not the satisfaction of your ideology. We’re never going to see eye to eye here, so we might as well just agree to disagree.
“That bears repeating, in my mind: Democrats cannot point to anything in this bill that is a great part of the bill.”
• No cuts for preexisting conditions.
• Lowered costs.
• Wider coverage.
I don’t really want to go on.
“I assert such things based on the satisfaction of the populace, not the satisfaction of your ideology.”
There will be little satisfaction when our currency is worth 10% less across the board due to inflation. Spending has a direct effect on our nation’s worth. Did you know that gold is above $1100 an ounce now? Its pegged to the dollar, so every increase in gold reflects a decrease in the dollar. I know the program cares for people well, but it won’t care for anyone at all in a decade or less.
“I don’t really want to go on.”
That’s fine, but your Congressmen should, right? They should point to actual things in the bill. Of course, that will require reading the damn thing (ahem, Obama). I honestly believe many haven’t read it.
“That bears repeating, in my mind: Democrats…”
Careful, mentioning the Bears and Democrats together may jinx the health care bill. You saw the game.
lol that’s true. I’ll leave the Bears out of it.